Town of Cairo

Planning Board

Cairo, NY 12413

 

 

Chairman, Dan Benoit

Raymond Pacifico                                      Allen Veverka              Frank Pambianchi

Edward Forrester                                    Beth Hansen                             Tony Puorro

                                                              Pete Kavakos

 

 

 

Minutes from December 2, 2009

Pledge

Present: Benoit, Pacifico, Veverka, Kavakos, Hansen, Forrester, Pambianchi, Puorro, Tal

Absent: Stephanie

 

Public Hearings:

Adams/Melapioni - subdivision

*95.115 acres - Lot 1 - 47.586 acres - Lot 2 - 47.586 acres

Received:

Maps

Application fee

Letter to represent

Pre-app

Application

SEQR

$25 escrow fee

*All agreed on no topo for maps, driveways on map

-Patricia Schneider - I don’t see a road for the owners to use with the current             egress/ingress?    

-Al MacDonald - This is in dispute at this time with the Schneiders

-Dan - So this right of way continues to be in dispute? Al - Yes.

-Two owners?  Al - Yes.

-Question about access to property?

-Dan - Any access to this property that is not in dispute?

-Al - No.

-If approved now it will be a land lock? (Schneider)

-Al:  Correct, no legal right of way at this time

-Tony:  Where is legal access on this property right now?

-Al:  It is in dispute right now.

-Schneider:  Right away goes right through my sister’s house.

-Does wood trail extend through the land or is that where it ends?

-Al explains the wood trail and where it runs.

-Tony - Where is disputed right away?

-Al explains on map where it is.

-If Melapioni agrees on a right away then there can be a right away besides going through Schneider property.

-Schneider states they were very clear that they were not going to approve this subdivision.

-Dan:  Do we have to go through with subdivision?

-Tal:  No grounds for denial due to new information Al has received that day.

*No other comments from public

*Dan adjourned public hearing

-Dan:  Should this be a long form SEQR due to right away dispute?

-Tal:  Could be due to traffic.

 

 

Puorro/Backis - subdivision (readjusted lot line)

 *9.442 acres being divided into (4.315 acres + 0.405 acres) and (4.317 acres + 0.405 acres)

Received:

Pre-app

Map

Application

$100 fee

Letter to represent

Escrow of $25

SEQR

Cert. mailings

Letter for Tony to present public hearing

Still Need:

Corrected maps for Dan to sign

*No questions or comments from audience, Dan adjourned public hearing.

*Need septic shown on map

Tony recused himself

Ray motioned Negative Declaration on SEQR, Ed 2nd it, All agreed

Allen motioned approval of maps, Ed 2nd it, All agreed

Allen motioned approval of subdivision, Peter 2nd it, All agreed

 

Open Business:

Silver Spur Development - subdivision

*Has already been before board in 2008

*November 2008 they were in with pie deductions on acreage

*Dispute resolved with Caruso that morning

*Granting of piece and establishment of line has been exempted from subdivision as per the courts, so planning board can make decision.

*Some of this occurred in 2005 or 2006.

*Dan:  We need to find the older folder and combine them.

*Public hearing on January 6, 2010

Received:

2008 Application on file

Still Need:

$25 escrow fee

Underlying subdivision map for next meeting

*May need other documents once the older file is found

 

Dan to the public:  We are going to be asking for underlying subdivision maps from this point on so we can take a look at them.  We want the most recent one prior so we can take a look at it.  If there isn’t one then get an affidavit stating that.

 

Brundage - subdivision

*This was Marschman’s subdivision last year

*4 lots right now - making them 8 lots

*MAJOR SUBDIVISION NEEDED

*LONG FORM SEQR NEEDED

*All building lots must be on map

*Well and septic locations needed

*Land owners needed

*Site distances, storm water, water and/or streams shown

Received:

Letter to represent

Pre-app

Map

Still Need:

Application fee $100 plus $50 for each lot over 4

Long Form SEQR

Application fee

Underlying subdivision map

Escrow fee $25

Site distance on Lot 1

Perk and Deep Hole tests still needed

All items needed on maps - driveways, site distances, water, etc.

1 Deed - 4 parcels - copy of prior deed?

SWPP needs to be addressed

*Dan gave Gary Harvey copy of fee schedule for him to review and come up with application fee.

Ed:  We put a note in there that there should be no further subdivisions

Ray:  We put that they need to come back before us if they are to divide further.

Gary:  Pretty simple subdivision, I should be ready for public hearing next month.

Ray:  My notes state after five years can do minor subdivision, before five years must be major subdivision

Dan:  If there is nothing wrong with land then there’s no reason why it can’t be subdivided again.

Dan:  Is there a problem with going forward with this if major subdivision?

Ed:  Can you bring a driveway out onto this road for this parcel?  Gary showed Ed where             driveway would be.

*Public hearing for January 6, 2010

 

Deschaine - site plan

*Dan went around the table and asked every board member if they still had concerns with the site plan?

Beth:  Still concerned about the lot size - if there’s enough room to do what is planned.

Tony, Allen, and Ray: Okay with everything

Ed:  Okay as long as DEC, ENCON, and other agencies are involved.

Pete:  Size of lot and topography still bothering him.  Not sure if ledge will give enough room for things planned.

Frank:  Noise and air pollution still bothering him.

Dan:  We have addressed all of these concerns and they will be followed up with the correct agencies.